Say it Sister...
Lucy and Karen, two 40-somethings, are always chatting about life, and all that it has to throw at them, and now want to share their raw, honest conversations with you. Their journey of self-discovery and healing is something many of us can relate to. We all possess a unique power within us, but life’s trials often knock us off course. They have the tools, the courage to speak up and simply say it as it is, so you might feel seen, and understood and gain practical tools and techniques for self-discovery and personal growth during the changes we experience.
Say it Sister...
Winter Blessings: Embracing Reflection, Renewal, and Personal Empowerment
What if the darkest nights could spark the brightest transformations? Join us as we explore the serene embrace of the winter solstice, where reflection, rest, and renewal become our guiding stars. Discover how the natural urge to hibernate can lead to spiritual rebirth and learn practical steps to create a nurturing, clutter-free space in your life. We draw parallels between the ebb and flow of the seasons and the cycles of life, urging you to find gratitude and mindfulness amid the festive chaos.
Feel the weight lift as we share personal stories of releasing emotional burdens like shame, guilt, and grief. Through ritualistic practices and self-reflection, we uncover the power of letting go to make room for growth. Whether you're dealing with your own emotions or carrying the pain of others, this episode offers a path to liberation and healing. Be inspired by tales of triumph over silence, as we and our guests reveal the courage it takes to speak our truths and set necessary boundaries, particularly during life changes such as menopause.
Embrace the power of your voice in the fight against intolerance and injustice. We celebrate role models like Giselle Pelico, whose bravery in speaking out fuels change and hope in the face of adversity. As we highlight the strength found in activism and collective action, you'll discover the transformative impact of courage and compassion. This episode is a rallying cry for personal empowerment and societal progress, inviting you to focus on helpers and unite for a brighter future.
Hello and welcome to the Say it Sister podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm Lucy and I'm Karen, and we're thrilled to have you here. Our paths crossed years ago on a shared journey of self-discovery, and what we found was an unshakable bond and a mutual desire to help others heal and live their very best lives.
Speaker 1:For years, we've had open, honest and courageous conversations, discussions that challenged us, lifted us and sometimes even brought us to tears. We want to share those conversations with you. We believe that by letting you into our world, you might find the courage to use your voice and say what really needs to be said in your own life.
Speaker 2:Whether you're a woman seeking empowerment, a self-improvement enthusiast or someone who craves thought-provoking dialogue, join us, as we promise to bring you real, unfiltered conversations that encourage self-reflection and growth.
Speaker 1:So join us as we explore, question and grow together. It's time to say say it, sister. Hello. Tis the season to be jolly, yuletide greetings and midwinter celebrations. But if you're anything like me, these long dark days bring on this feeling of kind of like hibernation. It's that seasonal affective disorder where I go a little bit inwards. But winter solstice, the celebration, is the reminder that light will return. But for now we can just sit in that darkness.
Speaker 1:Now, traditionally, yuletide was a time to clean your home, throw out what's no longer necessary. It's that need to purge what no longer serves us and it's that preparation for the spring and the summer that it will soon be here. We decorate our homes with the outdoors, bringing the holly and the summer that it will soon be here. We decorate our homes with the outdoors, bringing the holly and the ivy. We bring light into our homes with candles and fairy lights and fill our homes with love and joy and abundance. We are creating a safe space free of any negative energy or memories which might have accumulated over the past year, taking some hours during December's lead-up period to deeply cleanse both the mind and our hearts and homes so we can be present and fully give and receive. We can set ourselves up with an open heart, without all those old mental clutters holding us back.
Speaker 2:Wow, that sounds so magical. I was looking like being rocked into this like really beautiful space of like receiving and heart. Um, thank you for that. That's such a beautiful way to come back in and to be reminded of what actually truly matters, which is how we feel on the inside. And yeah, I mean, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2:For me it's about a time to reflect on the past year and to sort of come back in and, depending on what that feels like and what energy levels we have, we can start to think about next year. And it depends. It's a personal journey and I always say to people you know, just be where you are, be with what you're feeling, don't try to rush into a new year if you just want to sit in the space of reflection. So I feel like we have that personal choice to work with. But for me, there's definitely something about completing um gathering together.
Speaker 2:I always feel like I go into like a bear, like a mama bear energy during this time of year where I'm like a bit more slow and a bit more sort of steady. You know I need to sleep more. Um, I can be a little bit more like grouchy as well. Um, for some reason and it's kind of like I'm just much more slow, slow, slow. And yeah, I feel like that idea of focusing on what we've achieved, what we've, what we're completing and where we're going is so it's so important. What is it for you? What are you gonna pull in for this solstice?
Speaker 1:um. So, yeah, I'm definitely in hibernating mood, um, and you know, recently it's been really cold so I haven't wanted to go out, um. So there's something about honoring that, of like, just because you can go outside with the winds and the rain and the cold, you can just snuggle up. And so, for me, I'm bringing this choice of what is it I want? What do the people around me truly want? You know, and beforehand we were talking about the endless Christmas lists of our children and just knowing that, yeah, you might get some of that, um, you might not get everything, and it's actually being really satisfied with you know, have you got everything you really truly need? And, honestly, what I'm pulling in is that I do have everything that I need and I'm really grateful. So there is this slowing down, but it's also this um becoming a smaller, knowing that I don't need anything else other than what I've already got, and that's a really beautiful feeling.
Speaker 2:You know, there's something about the change of the seasons as well, and when I was trying to get pregnant, I went on this whole journey around the month and the cycle of the month and how our body changes and how we go from like spring into summer and then into autumn, and then, when we have our bleed time, we're in deep, dark winter. And it blew my mind a little bit so, because I realized how disconnected I was from my body. And there's something about the deep dark winter for me that is so symbolic of, you know, allowing ourselves to rest but knowing that actually underneath the surface, like when we have our bleeds, we are our bodies doing so much work. And it's the same when we come into this winter period, where you might not I mean on the outside we actually can look quite busy because it's Christmas, so it's a little bit messed up in some ways, but so it's not a perfect thing. But you know, when we think about hibernation and rest, there's also a lot happening underneath, underneath the soil of the earth as well, where you know things are happening but we can't see it, because we look out and we see that the trees are bare, you know, the flowers have gone. So there's something magical about allowing ourselves to have some of that into into our day so that we can think, actually, now is a good time to reflect and restore because soon, like you were saying, the light is going to come back and my energy is going to change and I'm going to want to do things differently.
Speaker 2:And I always go back into this grandma energy, you know, and and one of my guides is the chrome and I connect to her because when I need that absolute clarity of mind and focus and you know, like just the wisdom that comes through from just not, you know, caring quite as much what people think about you. It takes me back into winter energy again. It's this idea of this, like you know, me as an older woman around the fire, um, you know, having a nice hot cocoa and people coming to sit around the fire with me and telling stories, and I just think there is something so incredibly warming and magical about that. What is it for you? Do you go back into a like a stage, or where do you go?
Speaker 1:I definitely embrace the, the crone energy, but what's quite interesting is that it is a fairly new phenomenon for me. So, you know, in the spring and the summer it's all about outward energy. I think it is for most people, when you for me. So, you know, in this spring and the summer it's all about outward energy. I think it is for most people. When you've got, you know the, the full days like um, where you're outdoors, you're socializing more, you're going to see friends and family, you're traveling, you're literally pushing all your energy outwards um, in those months.
Speaker 1:But during covid, when we were all in lockdown, um, I was, I think the children were allowed to go to school for some of the time, so I was home alone and I got into this rhythm of being alone in these dark times, you know, and snuggling up, and I suddenly got into crochet and crafting again and it unearthed this, this other side of me which I hadn't seen or met for many, many years. And now, since the COVID years, I still choose to be that little bit more of a recluse. So of course I go out and see my friends and my family because they are really important to me, but that just being out there. You know the thought of going to the shops on a busy shopping day or just turning up at every event and being in busy pubs it's just not my thing. I'd much rather be around a fire or go around to a friend's house and sit there with some mulled wine or something similar and just chat and sing and play games.
Speaker 1:So yeah it, I don't know whether it's um, is the the crone or whether it's. I think it definitely is that grandma energy, though, of just actually wanting to be close to what's really dear and what matters, and knowing that actually we're in the northern hemisphere, so we get those very clear, distinct seasons. So another three, four months from here I'll be out in the world again. So it's, it's nice being in that cycle with that alignment, and it is a relatively new thing for me.
Speaker 2:I must say I love it and it sounds like you're very present, and that's the thing, and I feel like we're both quite present in this call. Today, everything feels much slower than usual, like we're much more um, I don't know like meandering. You know what I mean. It's totally different and normally we have a fast-paced patter, um, and we're definitely in that. I can feel the energy of it and it's like, oh, this is really fascinating for me.
Speaker 2:Um, when I think about the year, I think about what I want to complete. So what has happened in the year? What is like lingering for me, what needs to be sort of put to bed so that I can almost like leave it in this year, so that when I come into 2025 and it's the same, I do the same thing every single year I have like a almost like more spaciousness inside. Um, yeah, and it's been, it's been a practice for me for probably about 10 years of going hold on what my old way used to be well, just carry everything with me, I'll take things from one year to the next. And then I started to wake up a bit and think, no, actually I want to be a little bit more conscious than that, and I want to.
Speaker 2:This was great for this year, but does that mean it goes forward? Actually, let's think about what I really want from that, and for me, when I think about completions, it opens up the space so that I can start to do deeper work on not just the things that might be relationships or it might be piece of work, it could be anything but it's also about the feelings inside my body that I want to release, and I just sat with myself recently and I just thought what? You know, what are the strong emotions, the lower emotions that I don't want to take forward? What can I actually start releasing now, you know, and I realized I was carrying a lot of shame and it was fascinating in so many levels and it's been so liberating for me, and so I decided that one of the things I wanted to complete on was old shame, and what I did was I, you, you know I created a ritual around that and and I want to share that today because I feel like you know, we carry things happen to us year by year, and then we carry the experiences in our bodies and the things that we have tried to deny, we stuff down and we carry it deep and things like guilt and shame, it might be anger, it might be grief. You know the ones that we're like not comfortable with this, not comfortable with this, let's just leave it inside and pretend it's not there.
Speaker 1:Those are the ones that clog up our space that ultimately can make us really, really diseased and ill, I think for me, I've been in a year of holding, and whether it's holding my child through her move to Prague and all the stress that came with it, or holding my other daughter as she was going through her GCSEs and taking away all of her stress so that she could just enjoy the experience. But then I've also been holding almost like this collective pain around the world. So whenever I've been working with clients there's a lot of pain. We're reading so many negative things in the news stories and just seeing stuff going on along around the world and I realized as I was going through some of my processes that I've been holding a lot for my clients, my loved ones, and it's almost like I've been a sponge and I'm like, okay, now I need to let go because they've moved on, they're all happy in their lives now and I'm still holding on. So I really look forward to whatever magic you're going to do with us.
Speaker 2:I mean, you don't have to share it now, but maybe you just share it on the inside of yourself or you can, if you want to Like.
Speaker 1:for me it's um, it's I don't want to call it the fixer, but it's this essence that I want to make sure. Yeah, so I'm taking everybody else's worries and I'm holding them tightly um and I'm still holding them and so I don't know, it feels like a bit like a hoarder.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's what it is hoarding energy yeah and it's like that, that healer inside of us, because there is like there's a planet out there called chiron and it's the wounded healer and when we have that, we take everybody else's stuff on and we kind of inhabit it, but and we want to heal, but there's a wounded part of inside ourselves as well. That is that needs a lot of love and attention and and care and she's my five-year-old self.
Speaker 2:I've met her many times yeah, and so you know, and this, obviously, when we're doing these deep releases, it's definitely going to take us back to childhood in some way, shape or form, um, because you know that's that they're the times of our lives when we just didn't have the skills to be able to release it and we didn't really understand what was going on anyway, and, um, we didn't have the mental capacity or the physical capacity or anything you know, to understand and to actually go oh, I need to do something, I'm feeling something, what do I do with it? So it makes absolute sense. But let me just tell you what I did, and this is for everybody out there. If you want to, if you know you're carrying something that isn't serving you, um, in some way, then you can name it. It could be like I said you know, we've got things like grief, we've got shame, we've got guilt, we've got um trauma, we've got I mean I could go on and on and on and listen, but I mean everyone's got something. What we want to do is come back into ourselves and say our name. So, like I am and first name, middle name, last name, I am, you say your age and I am going to, I choose to release whatever the energy is and for me it's shame right now and then you get your piece of paper and your pen and you write down.
Speaker 2:You just reflect on it and you write down the things that you feel upset about, angry about, shameful about that you hold guilt over. You write them down and I had five things on my list and it was amazing to put it on paper and I just let myself go wild. I was just like right, let's just see what's in here. And I just wanted to put something around it to say you know, this is what's coming up for me right now. There may be other things that just not on this piece of paper that I had, but it was like five is a pretty substantial amount of things to release. So let's, let's stick with that.
Speaker 2:There's a point when you have to kind of draw the line somewhere and I wrote about each one of them and then I connected to myself again and I invited my higher self to come into my space and let me know, was this about purely releasing the energy of shame or was there something else that needed to happen for me to fully release it? And from the five things on my list. There were two things that needed a follow-up action, and I took my time about that because I thought, oh, that means there's an action for me, there's something I need to do, and am I ready for that? Do I want to step into it? So I gave myself like at least three weeks to sort of begin that process of um, the full completion, and I I basically had two conversations um around what I'd been carrying and I told these people how I felt, what had happened to me, you know, and had like very powerful conversations, and so it was like that was liberating in itself.
Speaker 2:But what I did is I the five things I had on the piece of paper. I lit a candle, I allowed the candle to burn out when it was finished and I took the paper and I burnt it in the fire and I said this is now complete. I did that immediately and then after that I went and had the two conversations in my own time and space and I can honestly say the energy that I've felt since doing it is beyond, and so at this time of year I'm normally very much more lethargic, but this year I've got a lot of intentional energy. Um, that is unusual for me at this time of year and I do connect it to that because it felt like it was so important for me to keep um, to keep myself clean in a way. I think that's what I did. I think shame makes us feel a little bit dirty inside and um, I also could give myself the space of like feeling like kindness towards myself and also determination that I wasn't going to allow it to continue.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that I always invite around this time is one of them. It is I think I do this, I've always done this, and a lot of people do this. They buy themselves either a new calendar or a new journal and they complete that version. So, whether whether it is a journal and you're writing, or whether it's a physical one you put on the wall, but it's like signifying that that's done, that's over, so it gives permission to go get more stationary. You're like me, you know you don't really need an excuse, but there's also the time of candles, so we want to bring more light into our lives at this time of year. So, whether it's the fairy lights on the tree or outside your house, but there's also bringing in the candle flame. And I also do something similar, as in every time I light my candle, whichever one I'm lighting, I make sure that I do it with an intention, whether it's a wish or a prayer or affirmation. So I always do that. And then, when I blow the candle out, I release it and I say now I release you or I thank it for doing its work, and it just makes, when that flame is, you know know, glowing and it's adding that warmth into the room. It just, it's almost like it infuses the air.
Speaker 1:So a lot of people also write their words on bay leaves and then either put them in a simmer pot or they throw them on a fire. So a similar thing, um. So I I really want to say thank you for sharing that, because the, the physical acts that accompany our thoughts and our intentions, they kind of like anchor it and they make it so. Um, some people call it magic, some people just say it. You know it is intention. I, I don't care what the name is, it's about consciously letting go and then making space for the new. So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:I love that pleasure and let's get into. You know what we want to celebrate for this year, because if we're going to be complete, we also want to be celebrating. What is it for you?
Speaker 1:oh well, um, I was thinking about this and, uh, one of the big words I put was say it, sister. Oh my, I am so proud of what we meant this year, um, and even if nobody else listened, it just means that I get to talk to you every week, and that's just something I'm so happy about. Um, so I'm celebrating that. You know, partnership, um, and what that partnership has created into the world. But just on the 12th of December, I completed a two-year journey of certification in my relationship coaching, and that was a two-year journey of deep work and also, you know, looking at the world as a whole. So that was why I was holding quite a lot, but it was also a lot of sacrifice and commitment, because I had to do the work, had to schedule things in, and it feels like it's I've just been on this weekly routine and it's. It's been tough. So I'm saying goodbye with a little sadness as well, because the people I've been on the journey with I don't want to let them go, so I won't but, um, but, yeah, I want to really complete on that. And then there's something else that has happened to me this year that I want to celebrate, and it's around my menopause journey. Um, I now fully feel aligned, I think, is the right word.
Speaker 1:So I went into this year not knowing who I was. I didn't like who was looking at me in the mirror you know another wrinkle and I found a gray hair and all this kind of stuff. Whereas now I look in the mirror I'm like, ah, it's me, um, so I really feel like I'm at peace. Um, I'm not questioning myself anymore. I'm just like, oh, this is where I'm supposed to be. Um, because it's also given me so much courage and that action and that little bit of rage and that, um, no more good girl. It's like, ah, lucy's back now. I'm like it's this homecoming. So I really want to celebrate that. Um, and, of course, my children are thriving, so I want to celebrate motherhood, and the mother that I've been to them has meant that they're out there in the world doing really well. What about you? What year for you, then?
Speaker 2:you know, I remember reading one of your posts saying oh, I've been in hibernation this year and I've been in my bubble, and when you tell me all this, it's like, wow, you know, look at how much, look at how much has actually happened and look at how active you've actually been. Even though sometimes it feels like we're in a bubble, we're still generating and we're still creating and we're still um, you know, out there in a way, it doesn't feel like we are, but we really really are, and perhaps it's more of a backseat position, but actually, in terms of what you, what you're doing, it's very, it's very powerful. So it's just an acknowledgement for me on that, and I think me this has been the year where I've really owned my voice, probably for the first time in my entire life. I've always been, like, almost scared to speak truthfully. I've always felt like, if I speak up, people will, you know, abandon me in some way, and people have abandoned me. It's been interesting, like you know. People have walked away. However, that's okay, because I stand in myself and it's a new feeling.
Speaker 2:And you know, it's taken me a long time to get to this point and it hasn't come easy. I've worked really hard to get to this point, but it's almost like there's no going back now. You know, like something has connected in me, like it's, like it's almost I don't know why I always see these things sort of attaching onto me Like I can fly, you know. Know, like I've got these like wings, that you kind of like a superhero, and they kind of the wings, come out and then off you go. That's the image that I'm getting, you know, of me just just feeling so true to myself, which is, yeah, that's it for me. I mean, there's so much more, but I think ultimately, you know, this podcast has also been a huge part of that, and when I speak my truth and I speak about the things that I care about, I heal more. And so it's that connection with voice and healing and the supporting to be able to talk about tough things without crying my eyes out.
Speaker 1:But I also think there's something there about for both, both of us, about, you know, we've gone on to some really tough topics, but we've also talked about some real spiritual topics which I think we've kind of hidden to the outside world before because and I think a lot of us do, and so it's that being able to find your voice to say all parts of you and the good bits, the so good bits, the bits that we've kept hidden and we've both been on this journey because we've we've had each other and the response we've had is it's been phenomenal and it's been like people, it's almost like, oh, I see you and I like what I see, or I hear you and I like what I hear, um, and it is beautiful. So I just want to shine that, you know, as a mirror back to you.
Speaker 2:I'm feeling that too, it's, it's beautiful and it's that thing about emotion as well, that when we talk about the hard stuff, the serious stuff, the um, traumatic experiences of our lives, they are deeply private, really, on so many different levels and they, you know, I understand why people don't want to talk about them, especially not in public, and they want to sort of go into their own little cave and do their work and I've certainly done all of that. And then there is something really liberating when you can come to the point where you can share it, and it doesn't have to be on a podcast, you know, it doesn't have to be on social media, it might just be one conversation with some, a friend or whoever it is. That is like for me. There's something about wow, my, I am emotional and I feel everything, but I can speak up and speak truthfully when I need to, and you can, I can count on myself.
Speaker 2:There's nothing wrong with, like, having a good cry, because I do love that. You know, like before I said no, not crying my eyes out. Well, I've done that and I can do that. But when I show in these spaces, I want to. I want people to understand what I'm saying, because I want to help and I want to give them that bridge of hope, and so to be able to connect to that part of me is so important, especially when it's deeply personal. So that's just a huge win, you know, and I couldn't have done that without you and other people in my life as well.
Speaker 1:So I just, I just feel so deeply grateful at this point. What about the things that we didn't get done, or the the learnings that we still have to complete, almost?
Speaker 2:the big thing for me this year has been about coming back into my body and celebrating my body and enjoying more of my body.
Speaker 2:Um, and I'm still working with that because I think again I hold shame around my body because I've had that from being a little girl.
Speaker 2:So this is like a journey that will I don't know where it will take me, but it's really important and then, really honoring the instrument of my body as well, because as I'm getting older and you know, you mentioned, like the menopause journey and you know I get these pains around my shoulders and my neck, you know, and frozen shoulder is a perimenopause menopause symptom and there's a lot of pain around here.
Speaker 2:You know, and some of that is a spiritual thing of like carrying a lot and other things is lifestyle and sitting at a computer and then also life stage. So I'm starting to get really curious about my body again, like I've been on this journey before when I tried to get pregnant and after an accident with my knee of like honoring and just going, wow, I need to take care of my instrument because if I've got all these like thoughts and ideas of things I want to do, if my body is not, um, taken care of, I'm not going to be able to get to the finish line, and so that's the big thing that's come up for me this year. So next year is going to be um a big one for me on that, and I don't know what it looks like, but I'm listening. What about you?
Speaker 1:so the the thing that I am still learning, um, is not to simmer too long when I need to change something. So what I mean by that is I've had to make some really big decisions this year and to really assert my boundaries or have certain conversations and even though, on my own, I knew I had to make a change, I was so concerned by the impact that it would have on other own. I knew I had to make a change. I was so concerned by the impact that it would have on other people whether it was me saying yes to something or saying no to something or challenging something that I didn't do it straight away. I almost thought, oh, maybe it'll just work itself out, or maybe now's not the right time.
Speaker 1:Each and every time a the other people involved were absolutely fine, um, and even if they did feel a little bit upset, it was on them, it wasn't on me, and so the lesson was like each time I have spoken up or made a change, everything works out beautifully and I just got so much lightness and space in my life. So the lesson for me is trust myself, know that when the time is right, I will do it, but don't simmer too long um. So yes, that that's my, my, and it comes back to trying to hold on. You know, hold the space for everybody else. It's not my job to hold everybody else's stuff. My job is to make sure that I am good first and and, like I said, the evidence there is that actually, when I I do choose me first, everybody else is just fine actually yay, and it's it's coming up against those.
Speaker 2:You know the taboos that we hold as well, isn't it? As? You know, caretakers, and like we are providers as well. Um, so we take on masculine and feminine roles, you know, and taking care of yourself, it's you know the taboos that sit in that space. It's also that, like, well, I'll wait till later and I'll perfect when it might be a better time. Well, there's no time like the current time and um, you know, similar to you, like I've started going. Oh, I can feel there's something here. Let's talk about it, um, and let's clear things and let's see. And that's felt really, really empowering in all my relationships because I've been able to. Normally, I would just don't rock the boat, don't rock the boat, everything's fine, you know. Don't make it, don't make an issue out of something, because everything's working really really well, you know. So be grateful for that, and that is true, by the way. Um, and then, on the other side of it's like, what's the cost of that to me, of me not speaking?
Speaker 1:but it's not. Everything is working, because you've got this feeling that something needs to change or emerge or something so but we tell ourselves that everything is just fine. But it's just like fine tuning sometimes, and I think I need to do learn to do that fine tuning earlier, rather than waiting for the machine or whatever to break fully, and so that's that's what I need to learn and practice in the year ahead. Um, so I guess there's something there also, you know, we've talked about ourselves. What about our wishes for ourselves, our family, maybe even the world at large? What's coming up for you?
Speaker 2:well, I always go into the world. I mean, obviously I have my wishes for my family, which is just that we can um connect fully. That's always a wish for me. Um, I feel like there's so many distractions in the world the tv, the screens Catalina hasn't got a screen that she can use yet, you know to me, so that's a little bit easier to manage. Um, but I feel like that disconnect that comes through the devices. I feel like that is very anti-connection and anti sort of relationships and family. So my wish is that we can find, you know, new and exciting ways to sort of fuel our relationship that is, away from technology. What about you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, again for my family. I think the one thing that I wish for them is just good health, and I think it's become very present. I saw all of my aunts and uncles yesterday and they're getting on a bit and I just want them to to still be here next year and the year after and the year after that. So, yeah, good health for all those that I love.
Speaker 1:Um, but from the world at large, um, I think the essence for me is the courage for people to speak up or act up against intolerance and greed and persecution.
Speaker 1:And I see things are happening and I think there will be lots of pushback and so, even though it's going to get hard, speak up for what is truth and honesty and love and compassion, because all of those qualities is what makes the world go round. And, yeah, it takes a lot of courage to be that speaker. But, whether it's join a protest or sign that petition or post stuff on social media to raise awareness, do something to support other people, because there's so many people around the world who don't have a voice and don't have a choice. So that's my wish for the world. Um, I, I, if anything else, just go listen to john lennon's, imagine and let that be the the fuel to your fire and really focus on the words in that and remember that. Actually just imagine if we did tap into those really whole values and beliefs that the world is good, people are good, humanity is good yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:For me, I think it's a call for healing. I feel like, you know, whilst we're in action, whilst we are um outraged about how humans are treated, how women are being treated, how girls are being treated, um how minority groups are being treated. It goes on and on and on and on. I feel that there's this huge need to heal ourselves, to heal, to do the deeper work. So I think that would be my wish for the world would be, you know, for people to just take a moment, think about the place that they're moving from and what they might need in in order to make a different choice. And I realize that's a very individualistic thing and a very sort of personal experience. And yet, you know, if people committed into that, I think we would see some, you know, bigger shifts because whilst the shifts are happening and that's positive, it's coming at a high price and high cost. And as we move forward, you know, when women fight for equity and fight for um their rights, there was this huge backlash that's happening that we can talk about as well. You know. That is awful and people are being outed and that's creating more of a backlash.
Speaker 2:So, you know, we've seen the Mohammed Al-Fayed's. Um, the thing about that is he's not here anymore, so we really can't take he really can't. You know, it's kind of happened too late for me. Um, we've been talking a lot about Greg Wallace, haven't we? Um, you know, and he has to sort of you know like deal with what he's done, his actions, so that's a positive thing. For me, it's much more like oh good, um, what about you? What do you want to add into it?
Speaker 1:So, when I reflect on the whole year that has transpired, there has been so much talk about inequality or ill treatment of other human beings, and then I don't remember the first time I heard this, but it's. It was that phrase always look for the helpers, and that is what I have focused on doing so, although there will be these negative voices or the people who are like trolls, who try and put you down, actually there's a lot more voices who also want peace and harmony and healing and love and tolerance, and I think there was, there was a turning point for me in around March when um Paloma Paris Paloma's song Labour came out and it was used on the backdrop of so many videos and it was almost like this anthem that spoke and galvanized all these voices and there were men's voices as well as women's voices, but it was almost like this spark. We needed an anthem that was for the young people as well as the older ones, that we could all join around. And then you know, there's been so many other things that have happened that have galvanized people and supported people, whether it was, you know, like the women come together regardless of race or religion in the US elections. It was like, okay, they're trying to take women's health rights away. So actually, women, let's galvanize and let's bring our allies along in the royal family is now, you know, really pushing her work, you know, against domestic violence.
Speaker 1:And so, across the board, I am seeing hope. I'm seeing, you know, new laws coming in. I think we chatted about this privately about the anti-harassment laws that have come in in the UK just in October to prevent sexual harassment. And, no surprise, that law comes out. And then we start hearing about Greg Wallace and what he's been doing. So there's hope, and I think that's where I am with all of this when I look at a year in review. It's gonna get messy, it's gonna get um turbulent, but let's not look for the haters, let's actually look for the helpers.
Speaker 2:So important and I feel like there's a space for there's a lot of role models I think that's what I hear and brave, really brave women who stand up and say this happened to me and who were reporting. You know sexual assault and rape and you know going through the court process, which takes absolutely I mean the incredible amount of courage that is involved in that is let's just name drop giselle pelico here, because she literally needs to be acknowledged as that role model.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um phenomenal woman for sure, and and I think that for me I mean I've got goosebumps going all the way up my arms into my shoulders, like when I think about her story and I think about what she lived, what she has lived through, and then I look at her strength and her bravery and how that is impacting and changing things. Again, I just want to acknowledge all of the women who you know are trailblazers, who are using like awful situations and adversity and they are coming back and they are speaking up on behalf of all the women that you know just don't feel like they can just yet, or maybe they're not in a situation where they can. So, yeah, that for me it just does something inside my body that makes me just want to sort of just acknowledge it really, um, yeah, that's where I sort of complete, and I know you've got something that you do want to share.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was this, this almost galvanizing energy and a message of hope. That's what I'm taking into the new year and my reflections on the year that's just passed. So I just wanted to play just a couple of lines from an amazing song, so I'm going to find it now.
Speaker 2:We stand together, we stand as one.
Speaker 1:We will not be broken we'll overcome.
Speaker 2:This is our battle, cry, cry. Oh, hear our drum. We will not be silent, and star points is one there we go, wow it.
Speaker 1:Every time I hear it it just reminds me of what we're here to do, what the premise of say it, sister, is for um to welcome people into our um space, whether it's, you know, following us on social medias, listening to this, or joining our private group. Um, it's just like you know this feeling, like we are in this together.
Speaker 2:We stand as one, yeah we will not be silenced because we have voices and we have power. Um, yeah, I just want to wrap it up here. Wow, we've talked about some really important things today. We've shared lots. We hope that this session really inspires you to complete things, um, let go of the things that are not serving you, the darker emotions, so that you can feel freer inside your body, so that when you come back into the new year, you are ready to go, because there's lots of work to be done and this is our last episode for the year, so we'll be completing here and we're back in January to talk about the goddess. So stay tuned, and wishing you all a wonderful Christmas and New Year.
Speaker 1:So thanks for listening and we can't wait to welcome you next time.
Speaker 2:Until then, use your voice, journal, speak or sing out loud.
Speaker 1:However you do it. We hope you join us in saying it's a star.