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Say it Sister...
Lucy and Karen, two 40-somethings, are always chatting about life, and all that it has to throw at them, and now want to share their raw, honest conversations with you. Their journey of finding their own voices, self-discovery and healing is something many of us can relate to. We all possess a unique power within us, but life’s trials often knock us off course. They have the tools, the courage to speak up and simply say it as it is, so you might feel seen, and understood and gain practical tools and techniques for self-discovery and personal growth during the changes we experience.
Say it Sister...
Breaking Silence: How Women Lead in Times of Political Fear
Karen and Lucy explore the urgent rise of extremism and far-right movements in the UK, examining what it means to have a voice during politically hostile times when many feel like hiding.
• Looking at how reform groups polling at 30% leaves 70% of the population fractured between other parties
• Personal connections to extremism, including Karen's Spanish heritage and memories of Franco's far-right regime
• The lived experience that most people are compassionate and kind despite extremist narratives
• Community responses to division, including creative acts of unity through international flags and colourful ribbons
• How extremism particularly threatens women's rights, healthcare access, and safety
• Practical ways to take action: education, sharing personal stories, supporting like-minded groups
• Using economic power by not buying from companies that don't support diversity or women
• Holding public figures accountable while protecting personal safety
• The new reality of questioning where and when it's safe to express feminist views
Your voice isn't a luxury – it can be taken away in an instant. In the face of rising extremism, silence only helps them. We may not control every headline or political agenda, but we can control how we show up, our intentions, and how we stand together.
Welcome to another episode of the Save Sister Podcast brought to you by Wise Women. Lead founders Caroline Rizkelli and Lucy.
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Speaker 1:Welcome. Today we're diving into something that feels heavy, urgent and impossible to ignore the rise of extremism, the far right sweeping here in the UK something that I never thought would ever happen and the threats this possesses to our democracy, our freedoms and our children's futures. We're asking what does it mean to have a voice in these times? How do we, as women leaders, mothers, sisters and citizens, stay hopeful while the political climate grows more hostile? And where do we need to find the courage to keep fighting for equality, justice and progress when the world feels like it's sliding backwards? And often, for me, I just want to hide. Lucy, where are you right now?
Speaker 2:Oh well, I'm yo-yoing between anger, rage, despair, hope, joy. I'm all over the place and I have to switch off and go for a walk or do something creative, go and meet people, my people, to remember that actually, you know, this isn't the dominant thing in the world at the moment. It's scary and there's a lot going on, but actually there's a whole other world out there of just living our lives. So I have to keep coming back to me and you know I am shaky because as we record this, it's in the backdrop of the flags being raised around the country, protests outside asylum centres, of which my own daughter was caught up in, accidentally, the Charlie Kirk murder, the Unite the Kingdom protest and the press coverage that accompanies it, elon Musk's speech, you know, to call for fighting, and then Trump's state visit to the UK, uk. I mean it is a lot and you've just got to know that the, the news and media sources will be all over this because it's well it, it's clickbait, it gets people's attention, and yet it is still creating such fear and division and tension in all of us, whichever side of of the line that you're on, and it's within us as well. I mean, I literally am feeling the tension within me and, just like the rise of MAGA, the rise of reform supports a certain section of our communities and it is rising.
Speaker 2:This, this hatred and this fear, and it reminds me of those Brexit days. This hatred and this fear, and it reminds me of those Brexit days which divided families, there was misinformation everywhere and, yeah, real fear. And you know, when you look at our political polls, the politicians or the political parties are more fractured than ever and whilst reformer polling at 30%, the other 70 percent of the population are divided between all the different parties and they often seem disorganized and in reactionary mode, so we haven't really got anybody else to follow. Um posted about three million protesters, um, you know, attending this unite the kingdom um protest. And it's all a lie. And and the the post said you know, don't trust the mainstream media. And I'm just like, wow, how do we, how do we even talk to people who are only getting their information from a very niche algorithm?
Speaker 1:it yeah, I'm worried, um, I'm scared, uh, but I also have to choose hope that, knowing that 70% of the population don't support this and don't feel like this oh, there's so much that you've said that I'm like oh, my brain is my brain spins with things like this, because I'm very much from the heart and I, you know, I'm always trying to do everything I can to cultivate peace and be, you know, in that sort of harmonic side of myself. But the world is not really built like that. On so many levels it is out there and yet when we're digesting information or things are coming in, we tend to share that, and I do this myself and I'm really trying hard these days to not do it. We talk about the drama, drama, we talk about the things that have shocked us, um, I think, as a way to almost like get it out of our system in some ways. If there's kind of a a positivity to that, you know, because you don't want to hold it all in. If you've seen something or did you hear what happened, and I heard this, and you know we get into that space. But if we're not conscious about it, we can actually just keep repeating that cycle over and over and over again, and what's coming out of us is, it's almost like shocking, and I think we've all been pulled into a world of extremes. And now the way that we digest our information is extreme and you know, it's like a bombardment coming in and I certainly see a lot of anger out in the world when I look out and I think, oh my God, there's so many angry people and that energy of anger is, and hate, is, the opposite to what I'm here to cultivate, which is, you know, I would say, love. So for me, the protection place, you know well, if I just sort of disengage from it and I, you know, don't have the conversations and just disconnect, then I don't have to be part of it. But the world doesn't work like that. And as a, you know, grown-up woman, you know now that I'm sort of, you know, going into these like state later stages of life, shall we say I feel very much like, oh my god, it's, it's time to grow up, show up and speak up. And this has definitely been the journey, you know, for quite a long time now, but it doesn't make it easy. So when I see things, I feel like no, how are we getting to this point? And obviously I want to start unplugging things and be like no, no, no, no, no. And then there's the other part of me that's like hold on.
Speaker 1:I was born in Spain. My dad is from Barcelona. You know I've got a huge connection to Catalan culture growing up and where I grew up, you know we were foreigners. We were foreigners and my mum's half Irish. So you know we definitely definitely weren't like everybody else in the street should we say that and I felt it and most people were. You know there was a lot of kindness and love and all of that around. My dad's had to work really, really, really hard harder than most people to you know to get jobs, to um, be out of culture and approved of by people. So I see that in him. You know he's coming up to his 80s now and he's still working his butt off basically to prove himself. And I'm like it kind of it does something inside my heart because I look at him and he's such a kind person, um. So that's, it reminds me of that and it reminds me of growing up.
Speaker 1:And you know the stories I heard from the far right in Spain and the Spanish civil war and how Franco.
Speaker 1:You know what. And you know the stories I heard from the far right in Spain and the Spanish civil war and how Franco. You know what happened, you know, and how bad it was and the hunger that they faced, the fear that they lived in, um, you know, not knowing who was going to betray somebody else, families disappearing, um, you know, my granddad fought on both sides of the civil war because he got captured and it's that kind of thing. And you just think, well, that was my grandfather. It's actually quite, you know, it's not that long, it's in a new my grandfather, you know, he was part of my life. So the connections for me, when I think about far right and I feel I think about the changes that want to, they want to enforce it, it's like no, no, it's too too close to my heart in a way. So I think that's probably why I want to defend, and yet I know that that's not not the way forward and I am as british as they come.
Speaker 2:So I get really angry when people say you know, bring back um britain, make us proud. I'm like hang on every, every single DNA test, any family tree that has been done for my family. Literally there is no record of any of my ancestors living anywhere else but on this island. So do not speak for me, because I am literally the most British of British people you can come across, and it reminds me of Robin Dunbar's theory that humans can only maintain around 150 people in their friendship group and you know that's like five really close ones and 15, you know. And then it goes out a little bit and then I look at my 150 people and then my 30 and my 15, and I have trans people, I have first and second generation immigrants and asylum seekers, I have gay, I have Muslim atheists, pagans, christians, men, women, doctors, judges, nurses, farmers you name it. I have those in my group and unfortunately I have some people who have got extreme political views in those circles as well.
Speaker 2:And I also volunteer with some of the most incredible hearted people from all walks of life, all nationalities, all backgrounds, and my lived experience is that diversity is good and that most people are compassionate, most people are kind, most people just want you know everyone to just to live and let live. And it is the the, the fear that others create for their own political or their own selfish purposes, that is being, you know, attacked and preyed upon. But actually, just look at your lived experience, when you look around your own lives generally, you see that most people are doing you know, they're all right, they're kind, and that's where I always go to is look for the helpers, look for the decent people and look for the moderates, the ones who just want to, you know, create community and support one another. The people who do the food banks, the people who do the charities, the people who do run around um elderly people so they can get to the hospitals or pick up their prescriptions. They are everywhere and we saw that spirit during covid know that it is within us and I think that's that's the bit that I keep having to go back to to remind myself, because, whatever our past is, we've all come from immigrants in some way or another.
Speaker 2:And let's be real when we talk about the issues of today, immigrants is the one that's in the most of the press. But we've got misogynists. We've got anti um lgtbq plus um xenophobia, you name it. There is this othering of dehumanizing of people and, just like your grandparents and your dad experienced, this is how the extremism gets in um yeah, for me it's the minority group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, ultimately it's, if 70 percent of people are, um, not for reform and 30 percent are for reform, then that's actually that is a minority group. However, what they're attacking are minority groups, you know. So it it's kind of hooking people in through such a distorted view of the world. I mean, I, I was very proud for a long period of time where I was like my god, the world is moving forward. Look at what's being created. Look at you know the diversity. Look at you know how we're all interconnected. You know I always say blood is blood. You know, like every single person's blood is the same color, um, it doesn't really matter. So it's like we've come so far forward on our journey as a human race.
Speaker 1:And then there has just now we're in this period of time, I think, where we've got the backlash towards that and the. You know there are uprisings happening and when I used to look back, I used to think why are people not arising? Why are people not, um, standing up and marching? And you know I'm going back probably 10 years ago now, when I was seeing some of the things that were going on. Well, it started with the me too movement, you know, women started marching and I was like that is incredible, like deeply, deeply proud and, you know, joined a march and it gave me such a feeling of hope that women were saying, look, this is happening to me, this happened to me and, um, we're gonna march. But I think there's also been a, you know, a backlash to that as well, and so it's taken a bit of a delay. We had COVID in the middle, you know, and what was now seen is this movement towards, you know, the extremisms. And when I looked at the marching yesterday, when I looked at, like you know, people, women, men, marching against far-right and fascism, they were dancing and I was like, you know, it was just a real.
Speaker 1:That was what gave me a feeling of hope, because I was like that is the world that I am part of, actually, that's the world that I adore and love, and will, you know, get out of bed for and go. You know, here I am, let's do this. So it just always took me back to that idea of when we get together, you know, when we co-create together, when we feel safe in spaces, and sometimes there can be a very big passion or purpose behind that that gets us to do it, we. It feels different, it looks different, you know, it is collaborative, it's celebratory, even though this is a really serious issue. We're fighting for our rights, um, and our freedom. You know, into the long term I was like that's what I'm here to do, I'm not here to be fighting, you know, and watching that kind of stuff unfold, because it traumatizes me on such a deep level that I then can't function. So, yeah, there's a lot sort of stirring because the pot is stirring, shall we say loving the conversation.
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Speaker 1:We'd love to hear your stories too. Find us on instagram at say it, sister podcasters, and at wise women lead, and let's keep the conversation going, because your voice matters here I don't know what it's like in your community, but, um, in my community, the the flags went up first.
Speaker 2:Um, we are in the midlands and um, and what gave me great hope was, you know, because initially me and my whole family we were, we were in panic, we were like if one comes outside our house we're going to rip it down, and we felt so saddened by it. And then, thankfully, a group of women created a Facebook group where people like me who were feeling the same could join, and that is now rippling out across um the country. And then we started seeing um, all nations flags from around the world be in place by the saint george's cross. And now we've got like one main street in our city where it's just got all the flags of all the world and it just lifted our spirits.
Speaker 2:And we've got a beautiful bridge where people have started just putting ribbons which I think started in Epping, and just all the different coloured ribbons, just as a show of creativity and unity. And so, where one side is launching missiles at the police and having fights and screaming and shouting and calling names, the other side is showing it's it's force, but doing it through a much more love, kindness, hope, unity kind of approach, and that makes me feel good, because sometimes you don't have to be loud in your you know and aggressive. You can do it through kindness and compassion and joy and colourfulness. That's the direction I want to go with, and are you seeing any of those? You know, you've seen the dancing in the protests.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I mean, I live in quite a diverse area, you know, and it's a big city, is Leeds, and but as we went out yesterday to go somewhere else to visit, um, you know, parents and things, as we're coming out of the area, going further, you know, up north, I would say, then the flags started appearing.
Speaker 1:So they were the first flags that I've seen. But I, you know, my first conversation last Monday was a business conversation and the first question I got asked was have you got any flags in your area? And I was like, and it it took me by surprise and we talked about it for about 20 minutes, you know, and this was a business conversation and I wasn't, you know, I was like, wow, you know this, it just made me realize that this is a conversation that has been had in many different contexts with many different people and genuine um, concern, curiosity, um, wanting to know. You know, I mean, I'm lucky that I'm not seeing it, but somewhat, sometimes that can make me a little bit complacent because I think, well, it's not happening here, because it's not, I'm seeing it coming in through my feeds, but I'm not seeing it. You know, it's not, certainly not in the area where we live. Yet that doesn't mean it won't come um you know.
Speaker 1:So I think, with anything, things can, can spread like wildfire and I always go into, like what is happening for these people, like to make them get on board with something that is so, you know, anti-human in a way, like what, what is happening there, and obviously it's fear. So I can get into the place of compassion for that. Whilst I don't support, whilst I have a very different viewpoint myself, you know, I want us all to be able to, I want everyone to like my mum will always say, like why can't everyone just be nice, like why can't we just get on? You know, and I agree with her and I also realise that, you know, we have to work at getting on and seeing it from this point of view. So for me it's like getting people.
Speaker 1:You know, I always go back to the book the anatomy of peace. You know, we're either our hearts either at war or we're at peace. You could say that the peace is love. Really, I like to kind of give that word love, because it's like if I can be kind and loving towards someone, I am feeling peace. But it's one or the two. We're either in one place or in the other, whatever side we're on, and I think we all owe it to ourselves and to each other to do the work, to say you know, I don't agree with you, but I, I want to sort of try and understand it a little bit without getting lost. You know, um, and then if there comes a point when we have to disconnect, I think, what about you?
Speaker 2:even then you can say I hear you, I see the points that you're raising and now I'm going to end this dialogue because you know we've done the listening and you know there's a few other things that I think us as women can do because, let's face it, it does still feel unsafe sometimes to speak your truth or to show up as an activist or to show your position in in certain areas. But there are things that we can do. We can talk to our children and our loved ones and just open the dialogue and to share our truths and about you know where the position we're coming from. But I think it starts with educate yourself first, and whether that's you know, making sure that your algorithm isn't just taking you down one side, or whether you're taking using from different channels or different newspapers, different social media platforms, it's really important to educate yourself and do your own fact checking. So if you see some kind of stat or somebody making these big statements, actually go away and just do a quick Google search or even go into your AI and the facts will show up. The facts will show up and just knowing that, once you've got this educated view, it means that you feel more empowered to challenge or to scroll on by a certain post and not be triggered by it.
Speaker 2:And then I think the next thing is for all of us to share our stories and our personal testimonies, because we hear these big, sweeping statements all the time of it's them over there, or people of Britain feel this and like, no, that that's not my story, that's not my testimony. Um and again, if you see or hear other people's stories being shared that are a different view, uh, that is more about peace or maybe some of the tribulations that they've gone through. Share those stories, you know, be visible and show up and then find other people who support the same kind of belief system that you have to, or you know, go and find out about them, whether it's a Facebook group like Womankind or wise women lead, stand up to racism, inspire women. There are so many out there. You just need to go and find them. What other tips have you got? Because I've got a few more. I think the thing is for me.
Speaker 1:Often, when we speak the truth, we say things that can be a little bit well, let me say a little bit can be triggering for other people because it's not something that they've thought about or they've tried to ignore. So when we speak the truth, it's not always, you know, a particularly pleasant experience for everyone. Some people are like, yes, absolutely, that's my experience and I'm there and thank you for speaking up, but not everyone is in that space and so there's for me, there's that awareness of, um, I have something to say, it needs to be said, and I'm also seeing things around me. So this is my experience, but I know it's other people's lived experiences, but not everyone wants to be part of that. So they have the right then to say actually, no, I'm, you know, I don't want to be part of that or I don't want to see that. And that's democracy. You know we can, we can pick and choose, but we have to keep showing up and talking.
Speaker 1:And you, I saw something and it was the white house and it was a women's health meeting in government, and there was not one woman in this meeting and it was all. And they all had their like blue Navy suits on and they were stood, they were all. It was so masculine, you know, and I saw it and I thought, wow, that scares me. That scares me. That's something I want to talk about because if we go down a far right space, it's going to impact women and girls. It's going to, it's going to impact our safety. It's going to impact the what's available to us and, you know, education in terms of women's bodies, support for women's bodies. It will impact the NHS. We live in a system where we get free, you know, we get free health care. We're very, very lucky to have that, and so the so that is the things that then makes it really, really real for me. And when I look at what jess phillips is doing you know the mp for birmingham and I look at how many mps there are, um, that are women, you know it's equal now and the movements and the things that are happening to support women, you know. So all of that, for me, if reform was to be successful, if the far right was to be successful, I know that that's going to make a huge change. And as a woman, and a woman with a daughter, I'm like that's not something I can risk.
Speaker 1:So I get into that space then of like we have to talk about this now, like I don't really want to talk now, like I don't really want to talk about it, I don't really want to have these conversations because they make me feel scared. However, we have to have the conversations and I think it's that shift. It's like what is it for each, each of us? That's really important, that we are willing to step into the uncomfortable and go the extra mile, you know, to put our voice to be heard, to sign petitions, to um speak, ask, ask other women how they're feeling about something. There's got to be something inside us, I think so. That's really where I'm going. It's like for each of us to find that place of you know, deep intention, or deep love, or we care so much that we will stand up, you know, and speak. I always go back to the same place, but it's about what's in here yeah, no, I'm absolutely with you on all of that.
Speaker 2:And so, just, you know some. Some of those key points is um, have those conversations, um, speak from your heart, speak truth. Do not, um, start spouting off some misinformation or just general statements that you can't back up. You know, get personal, get factual, absolutely support the candidates in your area who, or even if they're not in your area, if they're putting out a speech or writing something that speaks to your belief system, make sure that you are sharing those. Write to your belief system, make sure that you are sharing those. Write to your MP and sign the petitions and, when it comes to it, vote for the party or the people who are speaking to your beliefs so that the other 70% of the population can be heard. And then, one thing that I think is really powerful for me was using my economic power, because, let's face it, women have got so much economic power. We buy the stuff that comes into the house, you know the decorating, the subscriptions, the birthday, christmas presents, all of that kind of stuff. We hold so much purchasing power and so don't buy from companies that are divisive or don't support diversity or women. So if you hear a negative news story about a company or find out where they you know they politically stand. Just don't give them your money. Let's show you know. Let's give our money to those who follow your morals and your ethics, whatever they might be. And then the other thing that I've been doing quite a lot recently is holding public figures to account for what they're saying. So I had a really big conversation with a family member about Ryland who said a lot of misinformation but didn't tell people it was misinformation. Um, so that was like really dangerous. And since then, thankfully, um, the itv have ended his contract. We're just waiting to see what the bbc are going to do about it, um.
Speaker 2:But there's obviously elon musk who is spouting all kinds of stuff into our british politics and it's none of his business. He's not even, you know, a british patriot. He's. He's just stirring up trouble. So hold him to account and hold the news agencies that are promoting his stuff. Farage is just. You know, he it's almost like he winds people up and then uses them as his puppets.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, question his ethics. Look at his backstory about where he came from. Some of his voting that he's done which is absolutely anti-women, um, anti-nhs. It's shocking. So go and get educated and hold him to account and push for that legal scrutiny. And you can do that from the safety of your own homes without having to have the conversations and if you can be, be, you know, visible in peace building and your protests. So, even if you don't feel safe going to a protest, what I'm saying is maybe promote symbols of unity. So maybe have a little peace or dove badge that you put on, or wear that pride bracelet or get a t-shirt, whatever, but it's just to say, especially for the white people, to let other people know that they're safe with you. Even a smile at a passerby for somebody who is, um, a marginalized part of the community will put them at ease or just say hello, there are so many.
Speaker 1:The t-shirt thing I have a feminist t-shirt. I'm actually scared to wear that t-shirt thing. I have a feminist t-shirt. I'm actually scared to wear that t-shirt, and I have to say that out loud now, because when I bought it I was so proud of the t-shirt, let's say, and I think it was when I was in London this year and you know, we and I took my husband with me and I was doing some work stuff and I had it on and I had a jacket over the top and I just just thought I don't want to take the jacket off because I don't know who's around me and I've never, ever in my entire life, I've never felt like that.
Speaker 1:I've always been proud, proud to be a woman, celebrating the fact that you know I'm feminine, all of these things. And for the first time in my life, I am now questioning where I can wear that t-shirt and where I feel safe. It's a major, major thing and I think, without talking about that as well, it's almost like there's so much more going on than we we imagine. I am aware of it because I know how I was feeling with it, with the t-shirt on before, and how I feel now, and it's different. So I do want to name that because I will be wearing that t-shirt with caution at the moment doesn't mean I'm not going to wear it, but it depends where I am. If I'm on a train will I have the t-shirt on, because I've even said, like you know. I said to my husband I said is this going to create problems for me? And he was like no, why would it?
Speaker 2:and I said well, you're not the one that would give me the problems, but you know there's an awareness for me, is what I'm trying to say here and I think I'm glad you spoke to that because there's a load of stickers that are being produced by the anti-racism groups and asking them to put them in your windows or on your car, and I'm like, actually, based on the behaviours that I've seen from these ultra conservative groups, I don't want it on my car because God knows what will happen to it, and so we have to be.
Speaker 1:We have to be safe and be mindful and have discernment, and then again it's like and and and and. We shouldn't be having to walk around in the world with all of that. We should just be able to go out of our doors and feel safe. But we can't, and I think we have to be truthful about that. And you know, just to sort of say anything else is a mis-service, you know, to women, because this is where we're going really. So I think there's something about just being mindful, being cautious and having that discernment piece and, um, being safe. You know, fundamentally, without, without safety, we we are really trapped in our in cages and we want to be able to fly free, but we have to do it in a certain way these days.
Speaker 1:So I think I think for me it's about knowing your people, hanging out with your people. There's a lot we can do. You know, as we see with the keyboard warriors who are sending nasty things out into the world, we can do it the other way around and do it for love and peace. It's just what you're saying, and if you follow a lot of the MPs as well, they give you things that you can do really, really easily. You can sign petitions, you they'll give you like template letters to send to your local MP about certain issues. You don't have to work hard at this stuff, it's all there. We've got chat GTP. Let's use it positively and let's get things sent out. So I think that's the message.
Speaker 2:But please, please, please, do it from a safe and considered and measured place, because that's vital, because that's really our safety mechanism in the world yeah, and some of the um words of wisdom that I've been given to people who say I don't know about that or I hadn't heard that point of view. Um and I, you know, say well, you need to change your algorithm, go and find different sources, and so I'm just going to list a few people, a few women actually, who um are great to go and search and then, once you've searched them and maybe liked some of their posts, the algorithm will send you more content to help balance out what you might be seeing. So kate nash, the singer awesome, uh.
Speaker 2:Paris paloma, annie Lennox, marian Margoyles, charlotte Church, zahra Sultana, the initiative called HASSL, which is H-A-S-S-L, jamila Jamil, diane Abbott, anushka Shankar, and they're just to name a few. So if you just go and find some of those people and you know, search for them, like a few of their posts, maybe interact with them if you feel safe to do so, you will start getting a more varied um source of information and and they talk on everything from global issues to women's issues, to um the anti-racism, you name it, they are talking about it. So is there anybody you would recommend maybe paying attention to? Karen?
Speaker 1:I would say come and join us and come and listen to what we've got to say as well. That's the right answer is we are active on, you know, socials and you can come and follow us, and also there's, obviously, safe sister podcast. So come and join us, send us your messages and we're here to you know, to have conversations and support and and we, we really are championing the female cause yeah, and just remember that you know your voice.
Speaker 2:Our voices aren't a luxury. They can be taken away from us in an instant, and already a lot of the algorithms are doing that. But it is your responsibility to speak your truth, and especially in the face of rising extremism, silence only helps them, in which case it actually helps nobody. So we may not control every headline or every political agenda, but we can control how we show up, the intention we bring, how we lead and how we stand together. And you know, joining together means that our hopes are bigger than our fears, our dreams are more powerful than their hate and our voices, joined in solidarity, are stronger than any extremist narrative.
Speaker 2:So, sisters, wherever you are listening to this, keep speaking up, questioning everything, keep leading. The future of our democracy, our freedoms and our daughters' choices depend on us. So until next time, this has been Say it Sister, where silence is never an option. That's it for this episode of Say it Sister. If it moved you, made you think or made you even feel, seen, hit, follow, share it with a sister and leave us a review and remember your voice has power and your essence has wisdom.
Speaker 1:So speak your truth and live a true and empowered life. Until next time, say it's sister.